Natywne rozdzielczości gier

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Dużo osób na tym forum twierdzi że dużo gier na xbox działa w natywnym 1080p (Szczególnie śmiesznie to brzmi gdy porównują GTAVI twierdząc że X ma 1080p, a PS3 640p), nadszedł czas rozjaśnić im głowy.

Jak mówiłem nie jeden raz tutaj, natywne 1080p to naprawdę rzadkością tej generacji w obydwu konsolach, to że telewizor chodzi w trybie 1080p to nie znacz że widzimy obraz 1080p, a MS i Sony oboje wypisują głupoty na pudełkach i za chwile się o tym przekonacie.

Ostatnio śledzę potyczki fanboyów na GameSpot i YouTube, zauważyłem że panowie z GameSpot posługują się ciekawym linkiem :p

List of Rendering Resolutions + basics on hardware scaling, MSAA, framebuffers - Beyond3D Forum

Jest to link do forum Beyond3D, zrzeszająca maniaków na punkcie GPU i tych spraw. Otóż u nich w dziale konsol głównym zajęciem jest obliczanie natywnych rozdzielczości gier. Opracowali oni metodę liczenia po przez liczenie schodków i ich długości w pikselach na prostych długich krawędziach, oto przykład z Halo 3:

http://upsilandre.free.fr/images/Halo3nativeresocontext.jpg
http://upsilandre.free.fr/images/Halo3nativereso.jpg

Tak panowie, Halo chodzi natywne w 640p, GTAVI on PS3 anyone? :>

W linku prócz informacji o AA i innych technikali znajduje się lista rozdzielczości gier które zbadali, oto ona:

50 Cent = 1280x720 (no AA)
Afro Samurai = 1280x720 (4xAA)
Alone in the Dark = 1040x600 (2xAA)
Army of Two = 1280x720 (2xAA)
Assassin's Creed = 1280x720 (2xAA)
Banjo Kazooie: Nuts and Bolts = 1280x720 (2xAA)
Batman: Arkham Asylum = 1280x720 (2xAA)
Battle Fantasia = 1280x720 (no AA, ustawialny filtr rozmazania)
Battlefield: Bad Company = 1280x720 (no AA)
Beijing 2008 = 1280x720 (2xAA)
Beowulf = 1280x720 (4xAA)
Bionic Commando = 1120x640 (no AA)
Bioshock = 1280x720 (no AA)
Burnout: Paradise = 1280x720 (2xAA)
Call of Duty 3 (screenshot) = 1040x624 (2xAA)
Call of Duty 4 = 1024x600 (2xAA)
Call of Duty: World at War = 1024x600 (2x AA)
Cars Mater-National = 1280x720 (4xAA)
Club, The = 1280x720 (4xAA)
Command & Conquer: Red Alert 3 = 1280x720 (no AA, filtr rozmazania)
Conan = 1024x576 (no AA)
Condemned 2 = 1280x720 (2xAA)
Conflict: Denied Ops = 1280x720p (2xAA)
Chronicles of Riddick: Dark Athena = 1280x720 (4xAA)
Crash Time = 1280x720 (2xAA)
Darkness, The = 1280x720 (4xAA)
Dark Sector = 1280x720 (no AA)
Dead or Alive 4 = 1280x720 (2xAA)
Dead Rising = 1280x720 ( do 4xAA zależnie od FPSów)
Dead Space = 1280x720 (no AA)
Devil May Cry 4 = 1280x720 (2xAA)
Don King Prizefighter = 1024x630 (2xAA)
Elder Scrolls IV: Oblivion = 1024x600 (2xAA) - To samo z GOTY Edition!
Fallout 3 = 1280x720 (4xAA, częściowo)
Far Cry 2 = 1280x696 (2xAA, centered on 720p window)
F.E.A.R. = 1280x720 (2xAA)
F.E.A.R. 2 = 1280x720 (4xAA)
Fable II = 1120x720 (Filtr zamazania, 2xMSAA)
FaceBreaker = 1280x720 (4xAA)
Fifa 2006 (demo) = 1024x576 (2xAA)
Fifa 2007 (demo) = 1200x675 (no AA)
Fifa Street 3 = 1920x1080 (4xAA)
Fracture = 1280x720 (no AA)
Forza 2 = 1280x720 (2xAA in-game, 4xAA replay i wybór samochodu)
Gears of War = 1280x720 (HD), 960x720 (SD) (2xAA na statycznych obiektach?)
Gears of War 2 = 1280x720 (2xAA, częściowo)
Ghostbusters = 1280x720 (2xAA)
Ghost Recon: Advanced Warfighter 2 = 1280x720 (2xAA)
Godfather II = 1280x720 (no AA)
Golden Axe: Beast Rider = 1280x720 (no AA, efekt zamazania)
Golden Compass = 1280x720 (2xAA)
Grand Theft Auto IV = 1280x720 (2xAA)
Guitar Hero 3 = 1280x720 (no AA)
Guitar Hero Aerosmith = 1280x720 (no AA)
Guitar Hero World Tour = 1280x720 (no AA)
Halo 3 = 1152x640 (no AA)
Halo Wars = 1280x720 (2xAA)
Incredible Hulk = 1280x720 (Zamazanie w pełnym ekranie)
Juiced 2: Hot Import Nights = 1280x720 (2xAA)
Kung Fu Panda = 1280x720 (no AA)
Legend of Spyro: Dawn of the Dragon, The = 1280x720 (4xAA)
Legendary = 1280x720 (no AA)
LEGO: Batman = 1280x720 (2xAA)
LEGO: Indiana Jones = 1280x720 (2xAA)
Lord of the Rings: Conquest = 1280x720 (no AA)
Lost Planet = 1280x720 (do 4x MSAA zależnie od FPSów)
Madden NFL '09 = 1280x720 (no AA)
Mass Effect = 1280x720 (2xAA częściowo)
Mercenaries 2: World in Flames = 1280x720 (no MSAA, ale zamazanie krawędzi banowane na głębi?)
Midnight Club: Los Angeles = 1280x720 (2xAA?)
Mirror's Edge = 1280x720 (2xAA)
MK vs DC = 1024x576 (2xAA)
MotoGP 2006 (screenshot) = 1280x1024
MX vs ATV = 1280x720 (no AA)
NBA Live '08 = 1280x720 (4xAA)
NBA Street Home court (demo) = 1920x1080 (4xAA)
NCAA Football 08 (demo) = 1024x600 (2xAA)
Need For Speed: Undercover = 1280x720 (4xAA)
NFL Tour = 1280x720 (4xAA, 60fps)
NHL '09 = 1280x720 (4xAA)
Ninja Bladen = 1280x720 (2xAA)
Ninja Gaiden 2 = 1120x585 (2xAA)
Overlord = 1280x720 (2xAA)
Perfect Dark Zero (demo) = 1152x640 (no AA)
Prince of Persia = 1280x720
Pro Evolution Soccer 6 (demo) = 1024x576 (2xAA)
Pro Evolution Soccer 2008 = 1280x720 (4xAA)
Project Gotham Racing 3 (demo) = 1024x600 (2xAA)
Project Gotham Racing 4 = 1280x720 (2xAA)
Prototype = 1120x640 (2xAA)
Quake 4 = 1280x720 (no AA)
Quake Wars: Enemy Territory = 1280x720 (2xAA + zamazanie)
Race Driver: GRID = 1280x720 (4xAA)
Race Pro = 1280x720 (4xAA)
Rainbow Six Vegas 2 = 1280x720 (2xAA)
Red Faction: Guerrilla = 1280x720 (2xAA)
Resident Evil 5 = 1280x720 (dynamic 0-4xAA)
Ridge Racer 6 (demo) = 1440x810 (no AA)
Rise of the Argonauts = 1280x720 (2xAA, nie w post processing )
Sacred 2: Fallen Angel = 1920x1080 w każdej rozdzielczości HD (wraz z PC), 1280x960 dla obrazu4:3, 1376x768 dla 480p w panoramie (no AA)
Saint's Row 2 = 640p (2xAA)
SCORE International Baja 1000 = 1280x720 (4xAA)
SEGA: Rally Revo = 1280x720 (4xAA)
SEGA: Superstars Tennis = 1280x720 (2xAA, 30fps)
Shadowrun = 1280x720 (2xAA) - Gamefest '07
Silent Hill: Homecoming = 1280x720 (2xAA)
Skate = 1280x720 (2xAA ? )
Soldier of Fortune: Payback = 1280x720 (4xAA ?)
Soul Calibur IV = 1365x960 (no AA, programowy downscale do 720p)
Sonic Unleashed = 880x720 (2xAA)
Spiderman: Web of Shadows = 1280x720 (4xAA)
Splinter Cell Double Agent = 1280x720 (4xAA) (developer)
Star Ocean 4 = Chodzenie:1248x702 no AA, W bitwie: 882x496 no AA
Star Wars: The Force Unleashed = 1280x720 (no AA)
Stormrise = 1280x720 (4xAA)
Street Fighter IV = 1280x720 (2xAA)
Tiger Woods PGA Tour '09 = 1280x720 (no AA)
Tomb Raider Legend = 1024x600 (2xAA)
Tomb Raider Underworld = 1024x576 (2xAA) - bufor głębi 1040x576
Tom Clancy's EndWar = 1280x720 (2xAA)
Tom Clancy's HAWX = 1280x720 (4xAA)
Tony Hawk's Project 8 (screenshot) = 1040x585 (2xAA)
Tony Hawk's Proving Ground = 1280x720
Top Spin 3 = 1280x720 (2xAA)
Turning Point: Fall of Liberty = 1280x720 (no AA)
Turok = 1280x720 (no AA)
UEFA Euro 2008 = 1280x720 (2xAA)
Unreal Tournament III = 1280x720 (2xAA ala Gears...)
Virtua Fighter 5 (demo) = 1024x1024 (4xAA)
Virtua Tennis 3 (demo) = 1920x1080 (2xAA)
WALL E = 1280x720 (2xAA)
Wanted = 1120x640 (no AA)
Wheelman = 1280x720 (2xAA)
X-Men Origins: Wolverine = 1280x720 (2xAA)

Gry XBL

1942: Joint Strike = 1280x720 (4xAA)
Bionic Commando: Rearmed = 1280x720 (no AA)
Boogie Bunnies = 1920x1080 (4xAA)
Commando 3 = 1280x720 (4xAA)
Ikaruga = 540x720 (4xAA, centered on 1280x720 frame)
Invincible Tiger = 1280x720 (4xAA, tryb klasyczny), 640x720 or 1280x360 (tryb S3D)
Rez HD = 1280x720 (4xAA)
Wolf of the Battlefield: Commando 3 = 1280x720 (4xAA)

Dla porównania gry na PS3 (niechce mi się tłumaczyć więc chyba sobie poradzicie :p):

50 Cent = 1280x720 (blur filter)
Afro Samurai = 1280x720 (QAA)
Alone in the Dark = 1120x630 (no AA)
Army of Two = 1280x720 (no AA)
Assassin's Creed = 1280x720 (QAA)
Batman: Arkham Asylum = 1280x720 (no AA)
Battle Fantasia = 1280x720 (no AA, toggable blur filter)
Battlefield: Bad Company = 1280x720 (no AA)
Beijing 2008 = 1024x768 (no AA)
Beowulf = 1280x720 (no AA)
Bionic Commando = 1120x640 (no AA)
Bioshock = 680p (no AA, blur filter)
Bourne Conspiracy, The (demo) = 1280x720 (no AA)
Burnout: Paradise = 1280x720 (2xAA)
Call of Duty 3 (screenshot) ~1088x624 (2xAA)
Call of Duty 4 = 1024x600 (2x AA)
Call of Duty: World at War = 1024x600 (2x AA)
Cars Mater-National = 1280x720 (QAA), 1920x1080 (QAA)
Chronicles of Riddick: Dark Athena = 1024x720 (QAA)
Command & Conquer: Red Alert 3 = 1280x720 (no AA)
Conan (demo) = 1024x576 (no AA)
Condemned 2 = 1280x720 (no AA)
Conflict: Denied Ops = 1280x720 (no AA) or 960x1080
Dark Sector = 1152x640 (no AA)
Darkness, The (demo) = 1024x576 (no AA)
Dead Space = 1280x720 (no AA)
Def Jam Icon (screenshot) = 1152x648 (no AA)
Devil May Cry 4 = 1280x720 (2xAA, temporal)
Elder Scrolls IV: Oblivion = 1280x720 (no AA)
FaceBreaker = 1280x720 (QAA), 960x1080
Fallout 3 = 1280x720 (no AA)
Far Cry 2 = 1274x692 (QAA, centered on 720p window)
Fifa Street 3 = 1920x1080 (no AA)
Full Auto 2 (demo) = 1920x1080 (4x AA)
Fracture = 1152x648 (no AA)
Ghostbusters = 960x540 (QAA, pre-patch), 1024x576 (2xAA, post-patch)
Ghost Recon: Advanced Warfighter 2 = 1280x720
Godfather II = 1200x720 (blur filter)
Golden Axe: Beast Rider = 1280x720 (no AA, blur filter)
Golden Compass = 1280x720 (no AA)
Grand Theft Auto IV = 1152x640 (no AA)
GT5 Prologue (demo) = 1080p mode is 1280x1080 (2xAA) in-game while the garage/pit/showrooms are 1920x1080 with no AA. 720p mode is 1280x720 (4xAA)
Guitar Hero 3 = 1040x585 (no AA)
Guitar Hero Aerosmith = 1040x585 (no AA)
Guitar Hero World Tour = 1040x585 (no AA)
Haze (demo) = 1024x576 (2xAA)
Heavenly Sword = 1280x720 (4xAA)
Incredible Hulk = 1280x720 (no AA), 960x1080 (no AA)
Jericho (demo) = 996x560 (2x AA)
Juiced 2: Hot Import Nights = 1280x720 (QAA)
Kung Fu Panda = 1280x720 (no AA), 960x1080 (no AA)
Lair = 800x1080 (2xAA) - AA buffers are merged to produce 1600x1080 for further scaling
Legend of Spyro: Dawn of the Dragon, The = 1280x720 (no AA)
Legendary = 1280x720 (no AA)
LEGO: Batman = 1280x720 (no AA, slight blur filter)
LEGO: Indiana Jones = 1280x720 (no AA), 960x1080 (no AA)
Lord of the Rings: Conquest = 640p (no AA)
Lost Planet = 1280x720 (temporal 2xAA)
Madden NFL '09 = 1280x720 (no AA)
Marvel: Ultimate Alliance (screenshot) = 1920x1080 (no AA)
Mercenaries 2: World in Flames = 1280x720 (no AA)
Metal Gear Online = 1024x768 (2xAA, temporal)
Metal Gear Solid 4: Guns of the Patriot = 1024x768 (2xAA, temporal)
Midnight Club: Los Angeles = 960x720 (QAA)
Mirror's Edge = 1280x720 (no AA)
MK vs DC = 1024x576 (QAA)
MLB08: The Show = 1280x720 (2xAA) - The rendering window is adjustable down to 576p without upscaling to 720p i.e. the frame has black borders
MLB09: The Show = 1280x720 (2xAA) or 1920x1080 (no AA)
Motorstorm = 1280x720 (2xAA)
MX vs ATV (demo) = 1024x576 (no AA)
NBA07 (demo) = 1920x1080 (no AA)
NBA08 (demo) = 1920x1080 (no AA)
NBA Live '08 = 1280x720 (no AA)
NBA Street Home court (screenshot) = 1920x1080 (no AA)
Need For Speed: Undercover = 1280x720 (QAA)
NFL Tour = 1280x720 (no AA, poor framerate)
NHL '09 = 1280x720 (4xAA)
Ninja Gaiden: Sigma = 1280x720 (has weird scaling to support 1080p)
Overlord = 1280x720 (no AA)
Pirates des Caraibes (screenshot) = 768x1080 (no AA)
960x720 en mode 720p
Prince of Persia = 1280x720
Pro Evolution Soccer 2008 = 1280x720 (QAA)
Prototype = 1120x640 (QAA)
Quake Wars: Enemy Territory = 1280x720 (no AA)
Race Driver: GRID = 1280x720 (2xAA)
Rainbow Six Vegas 2 = 1280x720 (2xAA)
Ratchet & Clank: Tools of Destruction = 1280x704 (2xAA, centered on 720p output)
Red Faction: Guerrilla = 1280x720 (no AA)
Resident Evil 5 = 1280x720 (dynamic 0-QAA)
Resistance: Fall of Man = 1280x720 (QAA)
Resistance 2 = 1280x720 (2xAA - GDC09 slides)
Ridge Racer 7 (demo) = 1920x1080 (no AA)
Rise of the Argonauts = 1280x720 (no AA)
Ryu Ga Gotoku 3 = 1024x768 (no AA)
Sacred 2: Fallen Angel = 1280x720 when sub-HD output selected, 1920x1080 for any HD output (no AA)
Saint's Row 2 = 640p (QAA)
SCORE International Baja 1000 = 1280x720 (no AA)
SEGA: Rally Revo = 1280x720 (4xAA, alpha blend)
SEGA: Superstars Tennis = 1280x720 (QAA, 30fps)
Silent Hill: Homecoming = 1024x576 (no AA)
Skate = 1280x720 (no AA)
Soldier of Fortune: Payback = 1280x720 (no AA)
Sonic Unleashed = 880x720 (blur filter)
Soul Calibur IV = 1280x720 (no AA), 1280x576 in 1080p mode
Spiderman: Web of Shadows = 1280x720 (no AA)
Street Fighter IV = 1280x720 (no AA), 630p in up-close character view?
Star Wars: The Force Unleashed = 1280x720 (no AA)
Stormrise = 1280x720 (2xAA)
Supercar Challenge = 960x1080 (no AA)
Tiger Woods PGA Tour '09 = 1280x720 (no AA)
Tomb Raider: Underworld = 1280x720 (QAA)
Tom Clancy's EndWar = 1280x720 (2xAA)
Tom Clancy's HAWX = 1280x720 (no AA, horizontal blur)
Tony Hawk's Project 8 = 1280x720
Tony Hawk's Proving Ground (demo) = 1024x576 (no AA)
Top Spin 3 = 1280x720 (QAA)
Transformers (screenshot) = 960x1080 (no AA)
Turning Point: Fall of Liberty = 1280x720 (no AA)
Turok = 1280x720 (no AA)
UEFA Euro 2008 = 1280x720 (no AA)
Uncharted: Drake's Fortune = 1280x720 (2xAA)
Unreal Tournament III = 1280x720 (no AA)
Viking: Battle for Asgard = 960x720 (2xAA) - AA buffers are merged to a 1920x720 framebuffer, which is then downscaled to 1280x720
Virtua Fighter 5 (screenshot) = 1024x1024 (no AA)
1024x768 en mode 1080p
Virtua Tennis 3 (demo) = 1920x1080 (2x AA)
WWE 08 (screenshot) = ? 640x720 ? (2x AA) - les edges ont l'aparence du 1280x720 mais d'apres certain artefact il semble que ce soit le resultat de la fusion de 2 buffers MSAA 640x720
translation StefanS: "The edges give the impression of being 1280x720p, but because of a certain artifact it seems that it is the result of the fusion of 2 MSAA buffers of resolution 640x720"
WALL E = 1280x720 (no AA)
Wanted = 1120x640 (no AA)
Wheelman = 1280x720 (no AA)
World Series Of Poker 2008 = 1920x1080 (2xAA)
X-Men Origins: Wolverine = 1280x720 (no AA)


Gry PSN

1942: Joint Strike = 1280x720 (4xAA) or 1920x1080 (2xAA)
Blast Factor = 1920x1080 (no AA)
Bionic Commando: Rearmed = 1280x720 (no AA)
Calling All Cars (screenshot) = 1920x1080 (4x AA)
Commando 3 = 1280x720 (4xAA) or 1920x1080 (2xAA)
Echochrome = 1920x1080 (2xAA)
Elefunk = 1920x1080 (4xAA)
Forbidden Siren = 1024x512 (4xAA)
Go Puzzle = 1920x1080
GTHD = 1440x1080 (no AA) - Vehicle selection is rendered at 1920x1080
High Velocity Bowling = 1920x1080 (no AA)
Locoroco Cocoreccho = 1920x1080 (2x AA)
Mainichi Issyo = 1440x1080 (4xAA)
Pixel Junk Monsters/Racers/Eden = 1920x1080
Rocketmen = 1920x1080 (2xAA)
Rub'a'dub = 1600x1080 (no AA)
Snakeball = 1280x1080 (no AA)
Stardust HD = 1280x1080 (no AA)
Sudoku = 1920x1080
Super Rub-a-Dub = 1600x1080
Tekken 5 Dark Resurrection (screenshot) = 1920x1080 (no AA), not always?
Warhawk = 1280x720 (4xAA)
Wipeout HD = dynamic-framerate-dependent 1080p framebuffer (1280x1080 to 1920x1080)
Wolf of the Battlefield: Commando 3 = 1920x1080 (2xAA)

Więc jak widzice xbox jest lepszy w sparwach AA i rozdzielczości.... ale natywne 1080p to rzadkość, więc prosze nie gadajcie głupot w newsach 360 vs PS3, bo będe wam pokazywał tą listę o.o
 

khad

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No tak, ale zauważ że na pudełkach na PS3 piszą prawdę, na pudełkach X360 piszą 1080p i nie ma wzmianki, że to upscalling. Dla mnie to trochę robienie ludzi w balona, chociaż gołym okiem w sumie ciężko to ocenić. Taki Alan Wake wyglądał lepiej w marnej rozdziałce niż wiele gier w lepszych rozdzielczościach. Tak czy owak dla niektórych hasło 1080p jest jak religia i chyba na tym bazują. A lista pokaźna, na pewno rozwieje wątpliwości.
 

Sobek000

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z listy w pierwszym poście 5 gier na xboxa jest w prawdziwym full hd ;)
 

Frezer

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rozdzielczość HD dla telewizora to minimum 720p jeżeli jest mniejsza oznacza to oszustwo ze strony SONY/M$, wiec kupując oryginał w takiej jakości klient jest robiony w balona, ja bym nigdy nie kupił gry która nie działa w stabilnych 30fps oraz 720pno i jeżeli gra jest wydana w polsce a nie jest w PL to tez uznaje to za kpine, na szczescie są piraty i mozna przed zakupem przetestowac czy towar jest wadliwy i godny jedynie spracenia
 

filippiet

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Arcania Gothic 4 - Nie wiem jaka jest rozdzielczość natywna tej gry, ale nie ma 720p, na oko chodzi 20-30FPS z naciskiem na 20.

Grafika jest tak denna, że nie da się dopatrzeć nawet AF x2

Brawa dla twórców :D
 

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